Majority say Bush and Cheney committed impeachable offenses

Scooped from pages.prodigy.net/thomasn528/ – 11/13/2007

In a new American Research Group (ARG) poll, a substantial majority of Americans say both President Bush and Vice President Cheney have abused their powers to levels “which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution.” Among such Americans, a majority favors Bush’s impeachment and removal, and a substantial majority favors the same for Cheney.

ARG contacted 1,100 respondents between November 9-12, and asked which of the following four statements they agreed with:

  1. President Bush has not abused his powers as president.
  2. President Bush has abused his powers as president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.
  3. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.
  4. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.

Responses are given below; the margin of error is +/- 3%:

11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4
All voters 36% 9% 21% 34%
Democrats (39%) 16% 9% 25% 50%
Republicans (35%) 64% 6% 12% 18%
Independents (26%) 29% 11% 26% 34%

Results were even more pronouncedly pro-impeachment and removal when the same questions were asked about Vice President Cheney:

11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4
All voters 30% 18% 9% 43%
Democrats (39%) 6% 25% 6% 63%
Republicans (35%) 61% 12% 6% 21%
Independents (26%) 26% 16% 18% 39%

Two things should interest Congressional leadership about these results. First, the largest group of Democrats are in the “impeach and remove” bracket for both Bush and Cheney, with the result for Cheney approaching near-consensus level of 63%.

Second, the results are only different in degree among Independents. Were Democratic impeachment decisions purely dictated by political tactics, they would seek to win the largest group of “political neighbors” — the 39% of the Independent vote also advocating “impeachment and removal” of Cheney and the 34% advocating that for Bush.

Of course, such decisions ought not be purely dictated by political tactics — impeachment of these two traitors to the Constitution would be the right thing to do regardless of the percentage of Americans agreeing that it is.

But it’s disingenuous in the extreme to plead — as variously Conyers, Van Hollen, and Pelosi have — that impeachment is “off the table” because it might jeopardize 2008 election prospects. If anything, these numbers suggest the opposite.

Whose Democratic Party? What is it for?

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NOTE: ARG poll via ThinkProgress and DailyKos diarist Steve Singiser.

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Next moves in impeachment: Adopt-A-Rep… and more

Scooped from our sister site takomaparkibc.wordpress.com – 11/11/2007

As noted in a prior post, Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s impeachment resolution H.Res.333(/799*) was referred back to the House Judiciary Committee after a series of votes on Tuesday.

Disappointingly, Rep. Chris Van Hollen voted the wrong way in each of three votes that day — first to table, or kill, the resolution introduced by Kucinich, then to force a vote on sending it back to the Judiciary Committee, and then to in fact refer it back to that committee.

Given that H.Res.333 has languished in that committee for months without a hearing, Kucinich and impeachment supporters preferred to have an immediate debate on the House floor — and in a surprising parliamentary stunt, Republicans switched votes midway through balloting and sided with Kucinich to oppose Hoyer’s motion to table the bill. While this might have provided an opening for an immediate debate — one Rep. Kucinich was prepared for — Hoyer and the Democratic leadership were able to force two subsequent party-line votes rejecting that possibility.

So what next for impeachment supporters?

First and foremost, we need to try to capitalize on the events of last week by pressuring House Judiciary Committee members to take up the impeachment resolution that was, after all, referred to them by the full House. Setting aside the gamesmanship and party politics of Tuesday’s votes, the first vote showed gratifying support for immediate consideration of the Cheney impeachment resolution: 85 Democrats joined Rep. Kucinich in asking the House not to table his impeachment motion, despite strong, frankly inexplicable, and certainly unconscionable pressure from the Democratic Party leadership not to do so.

Accordingly, we hope you’ll join us in our “Adopt-A-Rep” campaign — pick a Democrat (or, if you really like uphill battles, a Republican!) on the House Judiciary Committee and call/e-mail him or her urging support for committee hearings on the impeachment resolution before it.

But that may not be all we can or should do. We hope the following ideas will inspire discussion, debate, and decision by those of us supporting impeachment in Takoma Park and Maryland’s 8th Congressional District. Please have a look, and please leave your comments below.

Option: Push for improved impeachment resolution
In focusing on the Vice President’s deceptions leading to the Iraq War and the threats against Iran, Kucinich’s impeachment resolution presents only a few of the reasons for impeachment. Some argue that for various reasons, other reasons — such as those provided in the Takoma Park impeachment resolution passed this summer — ought to be included in an improved impeachment resolution considered by the House and its Judiciary Committee. While we don’t have a seat at the Kucinich table, we might try to agitate for using the Takoma Park resolution briefly with Rep. Kucinich and prominent supporters like David Swanson and Cindy Sheehan.

Option: Register displeasure with Rep. Chris Van Hollen
(1) Arrange a meeting or attend one Rep. Van Hollen is scheduled to attend, and let him know how disappointed we are in his failure to join the most progressive, Constitution-oriented issue before this country today: the need to impeach President Bush and Vice President Cheney for manifest injuries to the Constitution, the country, and the rule of law.

(2) Boycott DCCC fundraising. Rep. Van Hollen’s stature — and power — within the Democratic Party are evidenced by his role as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. By publicly pledging not to contribute to this campaign committee, we would be directing our protest both at the Democratic Party leadership and specifically at Rep. Van Hollen.

There are reasons for doing so beyond impeachment. The DCCC is arguably building a Democratic Party that Democrats don’t want — DCCC-sponsored freshmen like Heath Shuler are among the Democrats who vote with Bush most often. Meanwhile, there are many alternatives for contributing to progressive and liberal electoral victories in 2008 — ones that don’t also reward a Democratic Party leadership for its intransigence on impeachment.

(3) Support a challenger. Chris Van Hollen’s opposition to impeachment is a legitimate issue of overriding importance in the 2008 election. If you see impeachment as a necessary constitutional remedy to Bush and Cheney’s abuses of power and assaults on the Constitution and the rule of law, then Van Hollen’s leadership role in opposing impeachment is arguably a dereliction of duty to his oath of office. He is certainly not representing us this way; maybe we can do better — maybe we should try.

Option: Engage 2008 candidates and campaigns
We could turn our attention to raising impeachment per se and impeachment-related issues, such as those enumerated in the Takoma Park impeachment resolution (torture, warrantless surveillance, signing statement, etc.) with 2008 election candidates or their proxies in the area. This could involve:

(1) Publishing presidential candidate comparison checklists on those issues and on impeachment, and/or

2) Attending campaign events prepared to ask questions about impeachment and impeachable issues such as torture, the war, and warrantless surveillance.

Option: Your advice here
All suggestions are welcome — the more so if they come with some idea of where/when/how you’re willing to help with them!

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* H.Res.799 is the designation for the “privileged resolution” Kucinich introduced on Tuesday.
NOTE: links to “DCCC-sponsored”, “most often” via DownWithTyranny, 10/23/07.

Put Impeachment ON The Table of the House Judiciary Committee

This week Dennis Kucinich led an heroic effort to put the impeachment of Dick Cheney ON the table by requesting a floor vote on H.Res. 333. As expected, BushDemocrat Steny Hoyer moved to table the bill. And then all hell broke loose as 165 Republicans voted with Kucinich and 85 brave Democrats to force a debate on impeachment over the objections of Nancy Pelosi. To block that debate, Hoyer moved to send H.Res. 333 back to the Judiciary Committee, and this motion passed. Watch David Swanson explain the events to Paul Jay of The Real News.

Kucinich is urging Judiciary Chairman John Conyers to start hearings immediately because Cheney is desperately manipulating the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran to justify a U.S. attack, just as he did with the pre-war NIE on Iraq. But Judiciary Democrats are deeply divided on impeachment, with Robert Wexler (FL-19) calling for immediate impeachment hearings, while fellow Palm Beacher Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-20), who is close to Speaker Pelosi, told Ed Schultz she adamantly opposes hearings.

So what do we do next to move impeachment forward?

1. Email all of the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee:
http://www.democrats.com/topelosiandjudiciary
and call them:
http://www.democrats.com/house-judiciary-democrats

2. If you live in the district of a House Judiciary Committee member, call their office and tell them you’re a constituent and you want immediate hearings on H.Res. 333. Then join your Congressional District Impeachment Committee http://democrats.com/cdic-find
and organize a HonkToImpeach rally http://www.democrats.com/honktoimpeach
in front of your Representative’s district office. Then keep up the pressure on your Representative every way you can, including letters to the editor, op-eds, calls to local talk shows, protests at local media offices, and pointed questions at every community forum attended by your Representative.

3. If your Congress Member is not on Judiciary, ask them to cosponsor H Res 333:
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/73

4. Ask pollsters to poll the public on impeachment, especially of Cheney: http://www.democrats.com/impeachment-poll-petition
and promote impeachment through media activism:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/748

5. Watch for updates and notice of a national conference call with Rep. Dennis Kucinich at http://impeachcheney.org and check out the new KUCINICH TV which had it’s first web cast last night.

Cheney (& Bush) Impeachment Needs YOU! To Contact Judiciary Committee Members

Distribute Widely!!!

So, Now that the H.Res.333 – the Cheney impeachment bill – (renumbered H.Res.799) has gone to this committee please pressure them every day and please pass this information along to impeach supporters everywhere but especially in their districts.

Here are the members of the House Judiciary Committee web sites. They require your zip code on the web forms. But you can always call them!

Congress toll free: 1-800-828-0498, 1-800-862-5530, 1-800-833-6354

If you wish to contact the whole Judiciary Committee in one email: http://judiciary.house.gov/Contact.aspx


Patrick J. Leahy
CHAIRMAN, D-VERMONT

Edward M. Kennedy
D-MASSACHUSETTS

Arlen Specter
RANKING MEMBER, R-PENNSYLVANIA

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
D-DELAWARE

Orrin G. Hatch
R-UTAH

Herb Kohl
D-WISCONSIN

Charles E. Grassley
R-IOWA

Dianne Feinstein
D-CALIFORNIA

Jon Kyl
R-ARIZONA

Russell D. Feingold
D-WISCONSIN

Jeff Sessions
R-ALABAMA

Charles E. Schumer
D-NEW YORK

Lindsey Graham
R-SOUTH CAROLINA

Richard J. Durbin
D-ILLINOIS

John Cornyn
R-TEXAS

Benjamin L. Cardin
D-MARYLAND

Sam Brownback
R-KANSAS

Sheldon Whitehouse
D-RHODE ISLAND

Tom Coburn
R-OKLAHOMA

Rep. Wexler Will Urge the Judiciary Committee to Hold Immediate Hearings on Impeachment!!!

Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-11-07 20:48.
afterdowningstreet.org/

Rep. Robert Wexler sent his constituents this beautiful and admirable Email today:

As a person who supports holding this Administration accountable for their deceptive actions, you may be interested to know about the recent votes in the House regarding H.Res. 333, “Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.”

I share your belief that Vice President Cheney must answer for his deceptive actions in office, particularly with regard to the preparations for the Iraq war and the revelation of the identity of covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson as part of political retribution against her husband. That is why I voted against the motion to table debate on H.Res. 333. Along with only 85 other Democrats, I opposed tabling the measure and supported beginning immediate debate and a vote on the Cheney impeachment resolution. The vote on tabling the Kucinich resolution was rejected, and the House subsequently voted to refer the matter to the Judiciary Committee.

Vice President Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration have demonstrated a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people. We see the consequences of these actions abroad in Iraq and at home through the violations of our civil liberties. The American people are served well with a legitimate and thorough impeachment inquiry. I will urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we bring begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration; and, if it is determined in these hearings that Vice President Cheney has committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors, he should be impeached and removed from office. It is time for Congress to expose the multitude of misdeeds of the Administration, and I am hopeful that the Judiciary Committee will expeditiously begin an investigation of this matter.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns. I sincerely appreciate your input and hope that you will feel free to contact me anytime I may be of assistance to you. In addition, I hope you find my website (http://wexler.house.gov) a valuable resource in keeping up with events in Washington and in South Florida.

With warm regards,

Congressman Robert Wexler Signature
Congressman Robert Wexler

Citizen Spotlight: Letter to Chris Van Hollen

Dear Congressman Van Hollen:

There is, they say, more than one way to skin a cat. I hope so, because our efforts thus far have yielded a big fat zero. I refer not to the skinning of cats, of course, but to popular efforts at restoring the rule of law in the United States through the impeachment of the President and Vice President.

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Update on Kucinich’s H.Res. 333, What Happened Tues and What’s Next

Update: Wexler is asking us to sign up now to get Cheney Impeachment Hearings Started!

How did your congressmember do? 86 democratic and 165 republican congress members voted the right way. Mine, Chris Van Hollen did not vote to give impeachment a chance.

Kucinich will hold a town meeting this week either on the phone, internet or both. Stay tuned for information.

Impeach supporters, I think this week is a fine time to continue to ask our representatives to sign on as a co-sponsor to the bill. There are 22 co-sponsors so far and after what went down yesterday, I feel with a little more constituent pressure to do the right thing, they could be swayed.

Call Your Congress Members AND Nancy Pelosi toll free at:
1-800-828-0498
1-800-862-5530
1-800-833-6354

Thank you!

PS: it’s important to refer to Kucinich’s resolution as “H.Res.333” — not “HR333.”
PSS: When you call, go ahead and ask them to start or at least support charging Cheney AND Bush with these additional crimes which are not included in H.Res.333. The charges include: Indefinite detention (habeas corpus), torture, FISA illegal wiretaps and signing statements. (see Takoma Park, MD’s Resolution– it’s a good one!)

LEARN MORE ABOUT IMPEACHING CHENEY:

More Impeach News:

  • The National Lawyers Guild passed an Impeachment Resolution on Friday, Nov. 2nd 2007 and will begin a national campaign for impeachment of both Cheney and Bush, providing further support for the impeachment proceedings to be held this Tuesday, 11/06/2007.
  • Yalies for Impeachement